No respect

"Khatibul Umam Wiranu, a member of the Democratic Party, accused Lukman of trying to curry popular support through the media through statements like his call for mutual respect."

Maybe Khatibul should learn that Lukman is the Religious Minister of Indonesia, and hence there for all religions, and not a spokesman for ISLAM only

This accusation tells us why education is so important and how the Indonesian government has thoroughly failed to create an education system that produces Indonesians who are religious while being respectful of other people 

please note that tolerance and education are considered bad words in Indonesia. Keep the "dumb" masses at present level....

But it becomes better:


“Why should the majority respect the minority?” Ali Badri Zaini stated

THAT is exactly the mentality to ultimately leads to war and mayhem

And Ali Badri Zaini continued:

“When Muslims are fasting, it’s customary for followers of other religions or for Muslims who are not fasting to pay them their due respect.”

CUSTOMARY does not mean 'must' and as for showing respect, this must be a two way thing. Muslims MUST respect the right of people not to fast, for if they don't then not only does that represent intolerance, but also infringes on people's human rights. Fast if you will as that is your choice but do not insist that others follow suit. In the UK, 95% of the population will not fast as they are not Muslims, but none of them will insist that Muslims follow suit. Muslims need to learn and understand that respect is a two sided coin which means they have to drag themselves into the 21st century and learn to live with it.

Another Jewish conspiracy???

The Indonesian Pediatrics Association (IDAI) said on Tuesday that Muslim communities in some province had resisted vaccination, as they believed that the program was a conspiracy and that the materials used in the vaccine were not halal.

The morally superior Muslims are jeopardizing the general population and more precisely kids. Is there any moral in that?

Praying, fasting, recitating the Quran, is all what counts for these uneducated...For the rest, leave the problems to the West for finding a solution (like stopping an outbreak). Pathetic

Prosecutors for KPK seats

Tony Spontana" - with this name the AG spokesperson could play in any mafia-themed movie and wouldn't even need to change it..(e.g. "Goodfellas" with its classic names like Paul Cicero, Frankie Carbone, Johnny Dio....)

Anyway, regarding all those candidates of highest esteem being dumped at the selection committee by various institutions with vested interests - most certainly there will be intense lobbying going on to get their candidates onto the chair - and if, for some mysterious reasons they won't make it the same ex-candidates and their backers will do everything and anything to find dirt on those who are being selected and chosen.

In any case, the KPK is flat-lining and if either the police and the AG get their candidates in this institution will be virtually destroyed from within like a radical cancer eating away its flesh and if not the very same will do (and as we all know in the meantime - they can!) to destroy it form the outside. Personally I think that the KPK's days are counted and it would need heaviest interference by the president as well as the constitutional court to reverse those granted pretrial motions, to stop the prosecution of suspended KPK commissioners and to give additional legal power to the KPK - but honestly - I don't expect that to happen. 

Corruption has won and the KPK will be just a cutout sticker to please the public without any power (and the will - depending on who may be the new commissioners) to actually fight against corruption. How very sad for Indonesia!

Indonesian legal system is infallible

The Attorney General’s Office (AGO) said death row convict Mary Jane Veloso may not escape executions despite new evidence presented in a related drug-trafficking trial in Manila.
AGO spokesman Tony Spontana said:

 “She can propose again for clemency since such proposal is not limited."

It is like double jeopardy in reverse.

what is omitted by not being said is that Velosso could be found totally innocent in another country and her conviction and execution could occur in Indonesia.....and she could be executed and be proven innocent at the same time...and this asshole AG says she should apply for clemency....I am maybe not too smart but should she not receive a pardon and not the rest of her life in jail....

what am i missing...

Is it that the Indonesian legal system is infallible and can never admit a mistake...so Veloso is required to apologize for being innocent to avoid Indonesia and Joko losing face....what sort of monkey business do we have in play here..these clowns that are running the country need to be arrested themselves..how long can this geek tragedy be allowed to play..these politicians are so inferior to what the rest of the world has...they serve themselves and not the Indonesian population...its in your face corruption masked patriotism

there is a major point i forgot to mention...which is,,,

you can only apply for clemency if you admit your guilt....and asking Veloso to apply for clemency is getting her to get the politicians Joko and the AG off the hook by getting Veloso to admit her guilt...and then they would kill her to silence her...it seems they are offering her a poison chalice...ie apply for clemency...admit guilt when you are innocent and forfeit your life and we will be left squeaky clean